In this conversation, Rick Gertsma and Ashlie Castaldo discuss the critical importance of mental health in preventing social issues such as drug usage and homelessness. Ashlie shares her personal journey, including her advocacy for mental health, community engagement, and political involvement. They explore the need for nuanced approaches to mental health, the significance of coping mechanisms, and the role of community in fostering well-being. The discussion also highlights the future directions for mental health advocacy and the importance of collaboration and innovation in addressing these challenges.